Welcome to The Get Real Podcast, your high-octane boost and in the trenches tell-it-like-it-is reality therapy for personal, business and real estate investing success with your hosts, power-preneurs Angela and Ron. It’s time to get real!
Angela: Hey everybody, welcome to The Get Real Podcast. I’m Angela Thomas and I’m here with Ron Phillips. Hey Ron.
Ron: Hey, hey. We’re back.Angela: Hey. Yes, we are. And today we’re going to talk about something you see all over social media. Everyone’s always working for this, you know, work-life balance in your life.Because you know, everyone knows work isn’t all that matters, but how do you, uh, how do you achieve that balance in your life? And this kind of goes with if you guys have listened to the two episodes that we did with Sean.
Ron: McCloskey.
Angela: McCloskey, oh my gosh, I like blanked.
Ron: If you haven’t, you should do that now. You should just…
Angela: Yes, turn this off. Go listen to those.
Ron: Yeah.
Angela: Because having your life vision planned out helps you understand yourself and what you’re actually looking for and what work-life balance means to you. Because it’s different for every single person. And you know, just trying to spend, you know, make sure that you spend enough time with family and with work that’s not actually going to help you achieve the feeling of balance.
Ron: Yeah. And we’re calling it to work life balance because that’s what everybody would know it as, right. But the reality of the situation is really what we’re going to talk about is an
extension of what Sean talked about when he was here, which is once you have your personal vision lined up, it’s how do you get your business or your career to operate
within the bounds or the scope of what you put together with your personal vision, right. Your life vision.
Ron: And that gives people this, you know, phantom work-life balance. Because most people just trying to, everybody kind of bobs back and forth in between all the little things,
right? Oh my gosh, I’m not healthy. So then, you know, we go and we start working out and then we go, oh crap. I haven’t spent any time with my family or with, you know, my
spiritual side or with this.
Ron: So we just kind of bounce in between all of them. And this balancing act that everybody talks about is always out of whack because, well, we never even really determine what
the heck it’s supposed to look like from the beginning. So how in the world could we have any kind of balance in our lives? Which I think is, I think it’s kind of a wrong way to,
to, to think about it.
Angela: But yeah, most of the…
Ron: To keep the context that everybody’s used to, right? It’s you’re not going to have any balance anyway if you don’t know what it’s supposed to look like. How could you
possibly?
Angela: Right. Yeah. Almost everything you see out there about work-life balance just talks about how to achieve that in your life. Like how to make sure you’re spending enough
time with each thing, each part of your life. But if you don’t have a vision mapped out, you can’t set up the proper boundaries. I mean, you don’t even know what you’re
looking for. So how are you supposed to actually achieve that, right? So, yeah. So hopefully you guys have already mapped out your life vision. So that’ll be easier for you.
Ron: And again, if you haven’t, go back and listen to the two and push pause when you need to on those. Write out your vision. You know, get somebody who in your life who you
trust and have them help you with it, right. But get that done. Because if you don’t have that done, then the rest of everything we’re going to talk about here is kind of
irrelevant.
Angela: Exactly. Okay. So first of all, I, you know, we joke about work life balance being a myth and, you know, I think we all see everyone on social media and we think that everyone
else has this more nailed down than we do, right. It looks like everybody’s got it figured out.
Ron: On social media everybody does.
Angela: Yeah. They’re fake social media life looks impressive, right?
Ron: I mean, right. You look at social media, everybody’s got a going on.
Angela: So in our little group of peers in the real estate they world, I think everyone thinks Ron is kind of an example of having this figured out. I mean, seriously, anyone that’s listening to this that’s Ron’s friend will probably laugh about that because everyone’s like, Ron, how’d you do it? How did you figure that out?
Ron: Yeah. It’s like it just happened one day and then bam, it’s over and everything is just…
Angela: And now your life’s figured out and it must be really awesome.
Ron: Well it’s magical. I mean that’s what it is. It’s magical. And you know, that’s not, that’s not reality either. I’m a relatively private person so I don’t put all of my stuff out there, right. But this is a constant thing that you have to work on. Every year I am, and sometimes two times a year I update my personal vision because it’s, it’s changing. It’s morphing, right. As I grow and, and progress and you know, my family dynamics change My kids are growing up. You know, I mean, the, everything is changing all the time. So to think that you just get this thing nailed and then, and then your personal vision, once you get your business wrapped around it, you’re just done is, I mean that’s just a fantasy. That’s not the way it works.
Angela: Congratulations Ron. You’ve made it. Yes.
Ron: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, the same thing with business because business ebbs and flows, you know, because sometimes things just are on autopilot and they’re going really well and you’re able to focus on some other stuff and you’re able to have more time. And then sometimes Angela, you and I get these crazy ideas and we start implementing them. And guess what? I mean, we’re back doing business a lot, right? And so if you’re talking about…
Angela: In the thick of it.
Ron: Things kind of get out of balance, but that was done purposefully. So it’s important that if you have your, your personal vision laid out, that you can on purpose do things if you
want to. It just makes everything more purposeful, I guess is what I’m saying. It’s not that anybody has anything more, I don’t know, dialed in then the next person, right. I mean, my life isn’t perfect.
Ron: And you know, Angela, Angela knows all about it, right? I mean sometimes, sometimes we make the wrong hire that costs us a lot of money. Sometimes we adjust something thing a little bit and it really screws stuff up and we got to jump back in there and fix it all back up again. That happens to everybody, right? Just because you know, I choose not to post on Facebook about all of my problems doesn’t mean I don’t have any. So this work life balance thing that everybody thinks everybody else was out there, I’m telling you, I know, I know a lot of the big-name people that you guys would know and they, you know, who you think has it all together and I promise you that they don’t, I know to promise you that they don’t.
Angela: No. And this can actually be stressful. That just made me think like work-life balance is, I mean, it’s a big thing for everybody, but it’s especially prevalent in the, in the women’s business groups and blogs and podcasts and they all talk about work-life balance and balancing your family with your career and your business. And that actually can add a lot of stress because you think you have to have this specific work-life balance that everybody talks about and you know, it actually, instead of calling me, you know, instead of giving you more time and making you feel more relaxed, it actually stresses you out even more.
Angela: So just know that this looks different for everybody. You got to kind of, you got to find your life vision and figure out what balance works for you and then continue to work on it all the time, like Ron said. And it shouldn’t be some stressful thing. It’s to, it’s supposed to be the opposite of that. It’s supposed to help you figure out how to actually…
Ron: A happy occasion.
Angela: Thank you. No. Yeah, no, seriously. You know, it’s supposed to, you know, be figuring out how to have a life and to be happy and be chasing your personal vision while pursuing your career or building a business. So.
Ron: And there is, I will tell you this, there is no reason why you can’t do both. And there’s no reason why you can’t do both and at least pieces of all of them right now. There’s no reason why you can’t, other than that, you can’t get out of your own way. That’s the only reason why you can’t. I mean, so once you got your personal vision, once you get that thing nailed in and you’re like, okay, this is really what I want, then it’s really easy to just go back and go, okay, what is it that I’m doing over here that doesn’t fit right?
Ron: And if I take that stuff out, then the rest of the stuff that’s left. How can I make that work? And, you know, financially and everything else, right? And you just go into problem-solving mode at that point is, and you wrap your business around and we’re going to give you some, some key things that you can do in your life or your career life to make it so that this happens and it takes a little while for this to happen, right? It doesn’t happen magically overnight. Just because you got your vision dialed in. Now all of a sudden you’re going to be like, bam, we got it.
Angela: I made it.
Ron: Next month. I’m free live in this day, right? That’s not the way it works.
Angela: No, unfortunately not. So yeah, the first thing that kind of fits with what you said, you build your, your plan and then you have to figure out what to remove from your life, right? A big part of that is knowing your strengths. And I know we’ve talked about this on several episodes, but everybody has different strengths and you do not need to be good at everything. Ron and I are perfectly…
Ron: Timeout. You’re actually not good at everything. Okay.
Angela: And you don’t end trying is crazy.
Ron: If you think you are, then you are the problem. I’ll just get all this.
Angela: Thank you Ron. Thanks for the get real there. Yeah. So Ron and I talk about stuff we’re not good at all the time on these episodes. I mean we’ve, you know, it’s kind of a personal journey to figure out what you’re not good at so you can stop wasting your time banging your head against a wall, trying to be good at it, right. And something that’s helped us figure that out is all these tests that we’ve taken, like the PI Index, the Kolbe Index Strengths Finder as well as just, I mean, those really helped us kind of dial it in. We’re like, oh, no wonder, no wonder I’m not happy when I’m doing these things, right.
Angela: So if you haven’t taken those tests, those can definitely help. I would advise that you take, you know, couple of them at least because they tell you different things. And then it also tells you what you are good at, where your strengths are. So you can put all your energy into your strengths and figure out a way to not do the things you suck at anymore. Because they’re not making you happy and you’re not helping anybody, right.
Ron: Yeah. And that, look, I’ve heard from a lot of people, hey look, what are you trying to say
that we’re not supposed to grow, that we’re not supposed to learn other things.
Angela: Thank you.
Ron: We’re supposed to just stay in our lane, you know, and whatever. No, actually I’m not saying that. I’m saying if, if you really want to learn something that’s kind of out of your lane, we’ll go knock yourself out, but let’s do it purposefully. Let’s not go do it because we have to do it or we think we have to do it and then be miserable. Like, you know, if I want to go learn, oh gosh, I mean I was going to say organizational skills, right? I don’t want to do that.
Ron: But if I did want to do that, then I would be purposeful about it that way when I actually am trying to learn how to do it, it’s not creating me problems or stress because, right. I don’t like that. I don’t do it very well. Disorder and chaos, I’m kind of okay navigating that. And if it’s ordered by someone else, I like it better. But I have to do the order and the structure on this. Man, I…
Angela: Boy is that true.
Ron: Yeah. It’s just not going to get done. I don’t do that very well. Yeah.
Angela: So Ron, that’s a good point because my main point here was that you want to take the things out of your life that you don’t enjoy doing. If you suck at something and you really enjoy doing it, you should work on that. You know, that’s a skill you should work to develop if you enjoy doing it. But the stuff that you suck at it and don’t enjoy what’s the point.
Ron: That doesn’t mean that you don’t have to do things you don’t enjoy, okay. There are certain things running a business that I have to do that I don’t enjoy. I do not enjoy sitting down with my bookkeeper and going over and the numbers of the business. I do not enjoy that and yet I have to do that.
Angela: You got to know what’s going on. Yeah, there are some…
Ron: I mean, there are certain things you cannot get rid of based on your position in a company or your ownership in a company or something like that. Those things you just are going to have to learn how to set time aside and just do, right. What Angela’s is trying to say, I think is the majority of your time should be spent doing the things that you’re really, really good at because you’re going to enjoy that time and you’re going to be highly effective at it.
Ron: It’s not just that you’re eliminating things because you don’t like them. It’s you’re eliminating things because you aren’t very good at them. And because of that, it frees up time for you to be in your zone where you can really move the ball. That’s the whole point of this, right? You’ll be way more effective it. And it doesn’t mean that that stuff doesn’t have to get done. It does have to get done, but for the most part, you don’t have to do it, right.
Angela: Right. So what do you do with all that stuff that you’re not good at and don’t enjoy?
Ron: Ooh, Ooh, good segue into number two.
Angela: Yeah. Yeah. Ron.
Ron: Number two builds an effective team. And for all of you out there going, well, I just don’t have the money right now to build an effective team. I would submit to you that if you don’t have the money to build an effective team and you’re trying to do everything yourself, you will never have the money to build an effective team. And your first hire should be a person who can free up enough of your time that you can be more effective, get more done and make more money.
Angela: And I would like to point out that’s like, you know, that’s kind of a cop-out. If you say you don’t have money right now because man, we’ve had to get pretty creative, especially when we were first starting out on how to pay certain people that would help us and free up our time. And there are numerous different ways you can do that are legal, including VA’s and several others. Well, you know, I’m not suggesting you don’t pay someone or set them up as a W9 and work them full time in your office. I’m not suggesting anything like that. But there are several creative ways that people will, that will help you know that people enjoy working for you and you can pay them without hurting your business. So
Ron: Yeah, it just needs to be the right person for what you need at that time. And you can find those people and you can, I mean, you can pay them in a way that works with what you’re currently doing.
Angela: I just want to point out here, I don’t know if this is a good place for this, but we have had really good luck not to single these people out, but man, there’s so many, especially in Utah, stay at home moms that have amazing professional skills that are not being utilized because their schedule needs to be flexible because they have to take their kids to stuff and they want to be home with them, which is great.
Angela: And they have amazing skills and they’re, you know, loyal, awesome part of our team that just need a little more flexibility and we pay them a little bit different and they love it and they’ve really helped us grow our business. So there’s kind of some, you know, there are some places you can look that most people don’t. Rather than just posting an ad that will help your business grow and help you and help them. And it’s a win-win for everybody.
Ron: And I love that. I actually love that about our business that we’re able to, we’re able to do that. I’m also in love with the fact that we get really talented folks who other people for whatever reason have their blinders on, can’t figure out how to make them a part of their team. So I’m grateful to all the other businesses out there that are shortsighted.
Angela: Thank you.
Ron: We’re giving you, this is a massive tip. You’re out there running a business and you can be flexible with folks. Massive tip. Look at the moms who are at home who really want to do something and make money for the family, but they need the flexibility. I’m telling you, there is massive untapped talent sitting there just begging for work and they can’t get it.
Angela: And we can’t hire them all. So go ahead. You can have some.
Ron: Yeah, we wouldn’t have given you the tip.
Angela: I mean, yeah, yeah, exactly. No, we’re happy to share. So number three, get clear on whether your work supports your life or the other way around. So this is huge. We’re talking about building your vision is, is your work supporting your life vision and helping you achieve it? And is it working around it or are you trying to fit in your vision and your actual dreams where you can around your work, right? Did I say that? Did that make sense, Ron?
Ron: So it can’t be one or the other, it’s got to be both in my opinion, right?
Angela: Put them around each other.
Ron: They have to support each other, right? I mean, you’re your business it is there. It exists to support whatever your vision is. That’s the whole purpose of it, right? And all of the people on your team, same thing. So, but at the same time, you know, you can’t be, you can’t be slammed in your business so that the other thing that you were trying to accomplish over here doesn’t get done. And I have so many examples of this where people are, they tell me all the time that the reason why they’re doing all of this stuff and they’re never home and they work all the time that they work is because ultimately they’re going to do this thing over here, right?
Angela: They’re going to be with their family and they’re not even going to know who they are because they haven’t been home. I mean I just, I can’t remember who I was talking to. I was just talking to somebody on the phone the other day and we were talking about a relationship with your spouse and they were really concerned because they don’t feel like they know each other anymore because he’s been working and she’s been with the kids. And now after whatever couple decades they’re different people instead of growing together, they’ve grown apart. And that happens all the time. And it’s so stupid, right? Because if you asked the man, he will tell you and just in this example, right? So all you women don’t get on there and start…
Angela: You know, Ron, I was like, oh really, the man.
Ron: In this scenario, the man, he says he’s doing all of this for his family and yet he never sees his family. So who is he really doing it for? You got to step back. Because if that’s you, if right now what I said, you’re like, yeah, well that’s not me. Well maybe you should just take a look in the mirror real quick. Just take a second. If you’re telling yourself that you’re doing this for your family and you never see your family, then you got to ask yourself, am I really doing this for my family? And my guess is you don’t have your vision clear. Because if it were clear and if your vision really spent time with your family, your business life wouldn’t look like that. It just wouldn’t. And there are ways that you can make, you can force your business or your career life to work with
your vision.
Ron: I’m telling you there are all right. And so this is really important. Should not be overlooked, it really shouldn’t. And it even gets worse when both parents are working and then the kids are completely left, right?
Angela: Yes it does.
Ron: Nobody knows anybody. I mean at least, at least in this scenario I just mentioned, at least mom knows the kids, right? Somebody knows somebody. So if you want to be a family unit, you got to kind of move in the same direction and you, you got to know each other and, and have time to love on each other. So.
Angela: And when you’re first starting out, you’ve got to get creative on how to do that because I know there are probably people out there that are like, well, we both have to work and we have to have a nanny. And I’ve been there and you sometimes have to get pretty creative on how to, how to start down that path and it gets easier once you, uh, once you set aside that time and make sure it’s a priority.
Ron: And but we keep going back to this, right? But if you have the vision and the, and the goal is there, it’s in front of you. You can see it. It’s easier for you to solve a problem or create a solution to this thing if you know what the thing is. As everybody flies through life and they’re just, everything is just chaotic around them because, okay. Both people have to work. Does that mean that you can’t know your children, Does that mean you can’t date your spouse? Does that mean you can’t continue to grow together? None of that is true.
Ron: And so it all comes back to this having a very clear picture of what you want your life to look like and then making it look like that. And the way to make it look like that is first to know where you’re going. What is the destination that sits out here, right? And so yeah, everybody’s life is different. Not everybody has a business that makes a lot of money. Not everybody has the ability to not have one spouse work. Man. You know a lot of people, both spouses want to work. Nothing wrong with that either. But figure out what your vision is so that then everybody’s on the same page. Everybody’s on the same team and everybody’s marching towards whatever end zone it is for you, right?
Angela: Perfect. Love it. Yes. Okay I’m going to end there because that was awesome. Number four is to take care of yourself physically. And boy is this important because everything suffers if you don’t. Ron and I both were just talking about before we started, neither of us slept hardly last night. So man, that just happens sometimes that just happens. I’m guessing it’s because our work, speaking of, you know, your business ebbing and flowing, it’s been a little crazy lately.
Angela: We’ve started kind of a new venture that goes along with our other business and we have a bunch of big deals in the works and just, you know, new people on our team and there’s just a lot of things happening right now that can disrupt your sleep. So we’re going to work on taking care of ourselves physically and that’s a really important one. You know, exercise helps you with stress, sleeping helps you with your thinking. I know, I know, I know.
Ron: Let’s just make sure, because this is The Get Real Show.
Angela: Okay. All right. Let’s do it.
Ron: Yeah, Angela just said something that probably a month ago she wouldn’t have said this is a big deal and it does. It does my soul good to see this.
Angela: Okay. Okay. You know what? I did exercise science in college as my major. I did all the exercise stuff and then one day I was like, man, having to exercise every day is making me pissed off all the time. I just I didn’t enjoy it anymore and I took a good, like 15-year hiatus from exercising. So 15 years. Yeah. Luckily I’m young enough, I didn’t die off.
Ron: She is back on the wagon. What was your comment the other day, Angela? Because it was really good.
Angela: No, I figured out that instead of thinking like, oh, I need to exercise so that I look a certain way. Because I really hate that I’m such a feminist that I refuse to try to look a certain way for somebody, you know, unless, unless it’s me and I really don’t care that much, so I can’t do it to look a certain way that’s never going to work for me. So I figured out exercising thought, it just, it takes away a lot of my stress and makes me feel happier and just more positive about everything. So it’s more of a mental health thing for me. It’s like a trip to the, you know, psychologist, but cheaper. So I figured out, you know…
Ron: Way better.
Angela: And way better. So I rock out to some, you know, hard metal and run on the treadmill and it makes me happier. So I’m going to keep doing it.
Ron: You guys should all try it. If you’re not doing it now you got to get past the first part where it sucks really bad because it will suck really bad. And then after that it’ll be great and you’ll love it.
Angela: And you start feeling better and people around you are like hey, you’re like my husband, Michael is like, you know, we’re not like fighting as much anymore. I’m like, come on, like, our fighting was my fault, please. But, no, I’m just kidding. But okay I do feel happier so that can’t hurt.
Ron: Michael if your listening, I’m really happy for you right.
Angela: Alright. So, yeah, I actually believe in exercise now and sleep is even more important. So figuring out how to get enough rest…
Ron: Sleeping, feeding yourself right, getting the right, you know, getting exercise, you know, moving, not sitting all day long, you know, that kind of stuff is so important and yeah, you shouldn’t overlook it. But the next one is equally as important. Maybe even more important. I don’t know. And that is…
Angela: We’ll let them decide.
Ron: Know who your friends are, right? Who your actual friends are. I’m not talking about friends, I’m not talking about the friends that you hang out with that you really don’twant to hang out with, but you’re lonely so you call them up and you just spend some time with them because well, they’re there. I’m talking about your actual real friends that are positive, that are your cheerleader, that don’t tear you down, right? So many people have friends out there who are the opposite of that. And I asked myself, why are you friends with these people? Do they do anything for you? I mean, when you do something for them, are they even grateful to many people out there keep friends around just so they can have friends. I think. Go find a good friend.
Angela: Well, and there’s also friends real quick that, you know, maybe feed into your self
destructive tendencies and you got to get those friends out of your life ASAP. So.
Ron: Yup. Smaller circle of really good friends and by really good friends, I mean people when you say, I want to do this thing that doesn’t match with my vision, they call you on your bs. When you are getting ready to do something that absolutely is inside of your vision, they’re your biggest cheerleader and they help you do it. Those are the kind of friends you need to have around you. And I’m not saying go dump all the rest of the, you know, crappy friends. I’m just saying hang out with them a little less. You know, choose to spend your time with people who elevate you and who you feel like elevating, right. Those are the people you spend your time around. Level up your friends, people. Angela: I wanted to mention that, you know, you don’t have to meet your friends the traditional way. I mean, Ron and I have met some really, really good friends through masterminds and stuff like that. Stuff you go to…
Ron: I’ve met some of my best friends, people who I would consider my best friends are people who have met in the business world.
Angela: Yeah. So I think a lot of times you meet your best friends when you’re looking for ways to improve yourself. Like we went to those masterminds to try to improve our business and improve, you know, our own lives and our success. And you meet similar people who are on the same journey as you and you guys connect over that. And those are some of the best, most lasting relationships and yeah, the best ones to have. So look outside the traditional realms. You know, if you’re meeting your friends in bars or at the pool or I don’t know, wherever the gym, they’re not necessarily, I mean they might be fine.
Ron: Hey gym people are great.
Angela: Gym people could be great. I don’t know. I made some friends at gyms that weren’t great.
Ron: I don’t know, I don’t love them. Gym people are great. Not the guy that’s hitting on you ladies out there. Not the guy that’s hitting on you. That guy’s a creeper. Get away from him. But other than that, gym people are really good.
Angela: All right. I didn’t mean to insult you gym people, but watch where you’re making your friends and think outside the box with it a little bit. So yup. That’s all I got to say on that. Okay.
Ron: Never waste your time.
Angela: Never ever waste time.
Ron: We did an episode earlier where we calculated a return on investment. Do you remember that Angela? And new calculation of, you know, your net net. My net net includes time and it has to include time because if you know, if I can make a bunch of
money doing something, but it takes 60 to 80 hours of my week, it’s not worth it to me because it takes too much of my time. The cost is not, the returns not equal to the cost. There’s not a medical term for that…
Angela: And you got to calculate that every time you want to add something new to your life because it’s easy to chase after all these new ideas, but each one is going to cost you time. You got to calculate if it’s worth it.
Ron: But then you have to be creative, right? Okay. If you want to do this thing and this thing is going to take you 20 hours a week, whatever it is, then either you have to give something up or you have to find out how you can do what we talked about last time and leverage so that it doesn’t take you 20 hours. You have to be creative and other in other words, to be able to do that, right? So it’s either you’re going to go, okay, I’m going to take this 20 minutes away from my family and I’m going to go do this thing over here because it can be really good for my family. And I’m telling you right now, it’s not or you say, okay, this is going to take 20 hours. It doesn’t have to take all 20 of my hours. Maybe it takes three to five of mine and 15 to 18 of somebody else’s. Angela: Yep. Exactly.
Ron: Don’t waste your time though. And don’t get into the habit of thinking that everything has an equal return. You got to figure in time got to figure in time.
Angela: Okay. Little caveat to this one. Wasting time isn’t the same as having fun or taking a break. So I mean we’ve talked to. Yeah, exactly. You know, you go to take a break, you got to make sure you have that balance in your life. So you know, if you know your favorite thing to do relaxing is playing video games. As long as you make sure you have time for the other things in your life that are important and your family and all that. I know we’re not into video games, but I’m saying whatever it is that seems like wasting time to me like video games, it might not be to someone else.
Ron: If it’s the best thing in your life.
Angela: The best thing.
Ron: I’m just going to suggest that you turn it off and go outside somewhere and just look. Because there’s a really big world out there outside of the internet. I mean know there’s a big inside of the internet too. But I’m just saying if video games are your only thing, I’m just suggesting maybe you take a little time go explore the world.
Angela: Oh man, I mentioned video games. Speaking of Ron, is anyone in your, everyone in my life is playing that new Harry Potter. It’s like Pokémon Go, but it’s the Harry Potter version and I freaking love Harry Potter. I’m a total nerd on that. But that game is driving me insane because everyone I know is on their phone like walking around trying to find Harry Potter animals or whatever.
Ron: I just can’t.
Angela: Oh my gosh.
Ron: I don’t even understand. We’re going to get comments from…
Angela: I’m sorry. I know everyone loves it right now, but man, it sucks cause everyone I hang out with…
Ron: Old men are running around looking for Pokémon. I don’t know. I don’t know what happened. I really don’t know what happened. Here’s the thing, I never understood them. Video games started when I was a kid. My brother John, if you’re listening to this,
I love you. We used to hang out at Smoking Joe’s when you had actually put quarters in the machines and I would just sit there and watch him play because of I just. He’s just good at it or whatever.
Angela: That’s what I did with my brother. I watched him and sometimes I’d give him tips on how to get through it, you know?
Ron: And he was good at it. Gallaga was his game man. He rocked that thing.
Angela: So Ron and I are too much alike. I know there are tons of people out there that love those, but make sure you’re not wasting too much time on whatever it is.
Ron: I would like to throw a bone there because John does not do that anymore. John is actually a, he goes out into the wilderness now.
Angela: Okay. Okay cool. He’s evolved.
Ron: He enjoys God’s creations. But some people never get out of middle school and they continue to play video games.
Angela: Oh okay. Okay. We’re going to get dislikes for that comment, Ron.
Ron: This is The Get Real Show. I don’t really care.
Angela: Ouch. Okay.
Ron: Just turn the thing off and go outside for a, I’m going to swear in a minute. Let’s get off this.
Angela: Okay. Okay. Let’s move on. Last one. Finally. Number seven. You know, we just absolutely love to talk about this, in work and in life. Looking for ways to give. Give, it’s our favorite word.
Ron: It is through service that you will succeed in life.
Angela: Yep. And…
Ron: Just do it.
Angela: Just do it. It will accelerate your success on accident.
Ron: It is not necessary that when you serve someone else that you posted on Facebook, it’s just really not.
Angela: Oh, come on. Are you trying to get all the dislikes today, Ron?
Ron: I’m sorry. I just, you know…
Angela: No I’m just kidding.
Ron: If it’s someone notices you’re doing something and they post it on Facebook and they don’t even know who you are, that’s cool.
Angela: That is cool.
Ron: If you post your own crap on Facebook, I’m sorry. It’s not as cool. You may think it’s cool, but it’s really not as cool.
Angela: Any Seinfeld fans out there. Because do you remember the big salad episode where George wanted credit for buying the big salad]? I mean it just reminds me of that. Like who bought you the big salad? You know, it was me. Thank you. You’re welcome.
Ron: I’m just saying.
Angela: Yeah. So yeah, don’t be that guy. Don’t be George.
Ron: Do it. And it’s the best thing ever is when no one knows you did it. It’s the best feeling ever. I’m telling you, if you’re out there giving to people and they, and they don’t even know you did it and you do, it’s really cool. So just do it that way. And then if the person that you’re providing service for knows it, the whole rest of the country doesn’t need t just do it, right. Just be that guy who everybody knows is a servant and he’s out there given she’s out there given, and let it be that it speaks for itself. You don’t need to aggrandize yourself. And if that hurts your feelings, maybe go look in the mirror. Just…
Angela: And then also, even if you don’t tell anybody, you can’t help but benefit from serving on the selfish side. I mean completely on accident. You serve people, you don’t tell anyone and it accelerates your success and you benefit from it on accident. It just happens. promise. So, yeah.
Ron: Here’s the other thing, and somebody is going to say, if I show it on Facebook though, I can inspire other people to do that. And you’re right, that actually does happen. And there’s a guy that I know who has this thing and he does it every Christmas and it inspires a whole bunch of other people to go do it. And that’s really cool. And I actually really liked that, but it wasn’t him that posted it on Facebook somebody else did. And because it did, it became this movement and now he, now he does, but he wasn’t like beating his chest about it and then it caught on.
Ron: That’s not the way it’s supposed to be. And I’m telling you that people with whom you associate will spread what you do and you don’t have to do it.
Angela: Exactly.
Ron: And it’s way better that way anyway, when you’re not the one thumping your chest. So. Yeah. I might’ve just eliminated, um, large chunks of our audience today. I don’t know. And I’m not sorry about that.
Angela: Yeah. Well, you know, we’ll be less abrasive maybe on the next episode. Who knows? So…
Ron: Maybe not.
Angela: Maybe not. All right. So just a quick recap. You know, first of all, get your life vision if you don’t have it. And then you know, the steps are, know your strengths, build an effective team, get clear on how your work supports your life. Take care of yourself
physically. If you hate exercising, find something to like about it. Know who your friends are and never waste time. And then, you know, the biggest one we just talked about. Look for ways to give and, and don’t talk about it.
Angela: All right. Thanks for listening. Thank you so much everybody for joining us. Please feel free to give us comments and feedback and likes no dislikes. That’s just mean. That hurts our feelings. And you can check us out on GetRealEstateSuccess.com.
Ron: We may get some today.
Angela: I know, I know. Thanks, Ron. Get real Success or GetRealEstateSuccess.com is our website. You can subscribe to the podcast there or leave us feedback and you can find us on Facebook at the get real podcast, so we look forward to seeing you guys next time. Thanks Ron.
Ron: See you.
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This subject is something most everyone strives for, including Ron and Angela. It’s work-life balance. How do you get this balance and how do you keep it?
First of all, Ron and Angela suggest you go back and listen to two earlier podcasts featuring Shaun McCloskey. Look for episodes 26 and 27 in which Shaun talks about creating your life vision.
A life vision can and should be the basis for work-life balance. When you have your life vision in place, it becomes a matter of having your work life (and everything else) fit within the bounds of that vision.
‘Everything else’ in the preceding sentence means family time, gym time and time for spirituality, among other things. It’s a lot of juggling; juggling most of us have tried with varying success.
It seems like the time spent juggling comes about because people haven’t set their life vision. They work on keeping the balls in the air without knowing the outcome they want to accomplish.
Just keeping everybody happy because they’re getting some of your attention is not work-life balance. That’s external and can crash at any time. This elusive balance needs to fit your needs as well as others’.
People in the real estate world who know Ron think he’s got the work-life thing figured out. Maybe he does, but it’s because he revisits and revises his life vision once a year at a minimum.
He focuses on keeping his vision updated to fit the realities of life as it is, not what he might want it to be. Ron looks at updating as a responsibility and a gift. It helps keep him successful and satisfied in business and in life.
Hire a great team and learn to depend on them. That allows you to do the things you do best and delegate what you’re not so good at. And, it contributes big time to work-life balance.
When calculating return on investment, include time in the calculation. If you can make money investing in something that will require a 65-hour work week, is that a good investment?
Be purposeful about your friendships. Keep close the ones who know your vision and will call your out if you veer away from it. This doesn’t mean to dispose of other people; just be mindful of your time.
Find ways to be giving. Find ways to be flexible with your employees. Understand how work supports your life. Find ways to make things you don’t enjoy doing more palatable. Don’t waste time.
What’s inside:
- Remember people who claim to have established work-life balance on social media have no such thing.
- A life vision helps you create a purposeful, focused life and do the things you’re good at.
- Take care of yourself physically because it relieves stress and helps you think clearly.
- It’s important to be a giver who doesn’t brag it.
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